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MJO08 |
This is almost tragic
Oct 12 2008, 5:56 PM EDT
I read these articles and wonder how anyone could say they don't know anything about Obama? I personally will be voting for third party candidates, so this is not an observation borne of preference. There is no part of his life that has not been totally scrutinized, especially by right wing spin machines hoping to find a magic bullet to discredit him. How can you say you know nothing about him?I find, after 8 years of a blithering idiot in the white house, the oratory skills of Obama to be refreshing. Shouldn't our potential leaders at least be able to speak with precision and distinction? Why would you fault a person for conducting themselves with some sense of intellect and dignity? As for not really knowing what he is or who he is.......I am at a loss here. This is where I find I cannot communicate with people who seem otherwise to have some solid ideas. The act of trying to tie mysticism and mythology and some kind of vague spiritulism into why you dislike a candidate is irrational. Its also a far reach even for someone like myself who is usually open to information even if it does not agree with my take on things. IF you have solid and concrete facts.present them. Citing gaffs, taking things out of context or tying non-relevant info is not th eway to do it. Marti 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?
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ckh88 |
1. RE: This is almost tragic
Oct 12 2008, 7:26 PM EDT
"I read these articles and wonder how anyone could say they don't know anything about Obama? I personally will be voting for third party candidates, so this is not an observation borne of preference. There is no part of his life that has not been totally scrutinized, especially by right wing spin machines hoping to find a magic bullet to discredit him. How can you say you know nothing about him?Marti we have had this discussion before. I wrote the piece in Feb. based on a deep viscrla spiritual instinct that my soul had while watching the early moments of fawning, comparisons to a "Messiah", pundits commenting that he was the "new testament" - people don't say things like that about most political candidates. Since then a plethora of very distrubing facts have emerged about Barack Obama, they areall over this site - about 10 articles at least - and each new revelation supports that there is a monumental fraud being perpetrated on the American people, beginning with the fact that his birth certificate has redacted spots in it. His own grandparents insist he was born in Kenya and they would know. Please see http://obamacrimes.com If you can't get past this, I don't know what to tell you. The political and the "spiritual" are deeply intertwined in this country, the Christian Conservative far right having taken over a good deal of the GOP since the Reagan years. We will just lovingly agree to disagree. That article stays and in fact it was the beginning of me realizing that I must write what Spirit directs me to write and let the chips fall where they may. I also will be voting for a third party candidate. ckh 0 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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ckh88 |
2. RE: This is almost tragic
Oct 12 2008, 8:52 PM EDT
RE I read these articles and wonder how anyone could say they don't know anything about Obama?One thing to remember is that the USA media is owned by NWO interests who were informed (most likely at the most recent Bilderberger meeting) of who the "pick" was going to be. The USA media "coronated" Barack Obama as President-King this summer when the media blitz had him on the cover of every significant magazine that lands on the coffeetable of every american household. - ckh Do you find this valuable? |
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bobby90247 |
3. RE: This is almost tragic
Oct 15 2008, 11:49 AM EDT
Hello MJ008,Well put!!! And you're not even voting for him. Hillary is MY preferred choice. Unfortunately, most American's, today, believe the media. Hence, the remarks of ckh88 and other's, all grasping at straws. However, ckh88 does admit the media is owned, primarily, by NWO (etc.). First world leader to introduce this was, Bush! Who is the New World Order? Let's see now, oh yeah, Royalty...Rich...and, that's right, Republicans!!! It's no wonder THEY would refer to,and "coronate", him as "King". We the People, ot the United States, refer to our leader as, "President". 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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MJO08 |
4. RE: This is almost tragic
Oct 15 2008, 12:44 PM EDT
The polticial and spirirual were never supposed to be entertwined in this country an dhistorical documents attest to this although there has been much revisonist history promoted by the right wing religious who have co-opted government to promote their version of Christianity, which as it turns out is simply the religion of greed and power. 1. The Tripoli treaty; the 3rd time our then young congress passed a treaty unanimously states in article 11 I believe......The United States are in no sense founded on the Christian religion. 2. One of many quotes written or spoken by one of the founders: In a letter to a Dr. Cooper, Jefferson writes that "Christianity neither is nor ever was a part of the common law" I could go on. The right to freedom of religion also implies the right to be free of religion. It also performs two basic functions. First, it keeps religion out of goevernment and second, it keeps government out of religion....which is why churches, no matter how obviously corrupted, are exempt from taxation on the billions they rake in each year from the gullible. I never at any time asked you to remove that article or implied that you should. I'm not the one who can't get past something. I believe it is you who refuse to let go of a planted concept that was intentionally intended to be misleading. I find often times that the direction some believe is coming from "spirit" is actually an inner voice speaking their own thoughts. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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ckh88 |
5. my personal religion... RE: This is almost tragic
Oct 17 2008, 2:19 PM EDT
I agree with alot of what you say Marti - the republicans have absolutely mis-used the Christian religion.Just fyi, Im not a republican, and I'm more a shaman than Christian in the traditional sene of the word. What Spirit has led me to do is what I am doing, for me personally it has nothing to do with either affiliation refered to because I have none. ckh Do you find this valuable? |
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ckh88 |
6. RE: This is almost tragic
Oct 20 2008, 4:08 PM EDT
MJ I'm not sure what you are referring to with the "planted concept" comment. This past February when it hit me like ton of bricks what was getting ready to be foisted upon the American populace I had not looked at a newspaper or a TV broadcast in months and was living deep in the wilds of the pacific northwest USA at that time. Spirit showed me who and what Barack Obama was, and what was getting ready to happen - not a media figure, a pundit, a radio talk show, a magazine or any TV broadcast. I absolutely agree the Christian religion today is a co-opted tool of the Illuminati for the most part andis based on a lust for money and power. That being said, the contents of the Book of Revelations continues to be one of the most accurate and correct prophetic documents for the times that we are living in that I have ever come across in 27 years of spiritual research. - CKH Do you find this valuable? |